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Dec 25, '16, 3:11pm

He takes office in less than 30 days. He has the both the House and the Senate. And he will probably pick the next 3 Supreme Court Justices.

This will be the defining years of the conservative movement. They literally have no excuse to not deliver on what they promised. More jobs, more national security, less corruption and more economic growth should be right around the corner for this country. And Trump will be responsible for getting the job done or failing miserably at it. I can't wait to see which one happens during his presidency. This will be the put up or shut up moment of a lifetime.
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Dec 25, '16, 3:41pm

Raging Light wrote:He takes office in less than 30 days. He has the both the House and the Senate. And he will probably pick the next 3 Supreme Court Justices.

This will be the defining years of the conservative movement. They literally have no excuse to not deliver on what they promised. More jobs, more national security, less corruption and more economic growth should be right around the corner for this country. And Trump will be responsible for getting the job done or failing miserably at it. I can't wait to see which one happens during his presidency. This will be the put up or shut up moment of a lifetime.


He isn't a conservative.

They will use the same excuse that Obama has been using since 2010 - the other side will not pass what I want. Democrats will forget they have been saying it for 6 years though (because they hold no actual beliefs).
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Re: Donald Trump's Presidency | Discussion Thread

Dec 27, '16, 12:18am

I do I it funny. That all the lobbyist Trump said he was against. Are the ones he just gave positions in government. That's one way to get rid of lobbyist. Give them the power so they don't have to anymore!
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Dec 27, '16, 4:37am

Deathtone wrote:I do I it funny. That all the lobbyist Trump said he was against. Are the ones he just gave positions in government. That's one way to get rid of lobbyist. Give them the power so they don't have to anymore!


I don't think you know what lobbyist means. You have to be registered as a lobbyist in the U.S. Who are the people in his cabinet that are registered lobbyists?
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Dec 27, '16, 6:51am

niliuscofc wrote:I don't think you know what lobbyist means. You have to be registered as a lobbyist in the U.S. Who are the people in his cabinet that are registered lobbyists?

I do think it's laughable that people bought in to his "drain the swamp" nonsense.
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Dec 27, '16, 9:51am

Tidal Town wrote:I do think it's laughable that people bought in to his "drain the swamp" nonsense.


Business people appointments are draining the swamp. Appointing Nikki Haley is not.
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Dec 27, '16, 10:13am

niliuscofc wrote:Business people appointments are draining the swamp. Appointing Nikki Haley is not.

Please, people whined incessantly that Clinton had too many ties to Wall Street. I'm sorry, but appointing, for example, a former Goldman Sachs partner to Treasury Secretary is a physical manifestation of said Wall Street ties. And quite frankly, the word "business" isn't some magical phrase that means someone is devoid of corruption, political or otherwise.
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Dec 27, '16, 10:27am

Man I can't wait for all the new jobs, less cops dead and peace world wide.

I'm sure he'll make American Great again and his supporters will definitely call him out when he does the same shit as everyone else portilloKevin

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Dec 27, '16, 10:47am

JerrodDRagon wrote:Man I can't wait for all the new jobs, less cops dead and peace world wide.

I'm sure he'll make American Great again and his supporters will definitely call him out when he does the same shit as everyone else portilloKevin


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Dec 28, '16, 4:17am

Tidal Town wrote:Please, people whined incessantly that Clinton had too many ties to Wall Street. I'm sorry, but appointing, for example, a former Goldman Sachs partner to Treasury Secretary is a physical manifestation of said Wall Street ties. And quite frankly, the word "business" isn't some magical phrase that means someone is devoid of corruption, political or otherwise.


People who did not vote for Trump, sure. Sanders and Warren voted for Clinton, and complained quite loudly about "wall street." You do not get apply your leftist idea of swamp as if Trump used swamp the same way as a communist/socialists.

Having a secretary of state, for example, who has worked for one company for over 40 years, is draining the swamp.
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Dec 28, '16, 7:25am

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Tidal Town wrote:Please, people whined incessantly that Clinton had too many ties to Wall Street. I'm sorry, but appointing, for example, a former Goldman Sachs partner to Treasury Secretary is a physical manifestation of said Wall Street ties. And quite frankly, the word "business" isn't some magical phrase that means someone is devoid of corruption, political or otherwise.


People who did not vote for Trump, sure. Sanders and Warren voted for Clinton, and complained quite loudly about "wall street." You do not get apply your leftist idea of swamp as if Trump used swamp the same way as a communist/socialists.

Having a secretary of state, for example, who has worked for one company for over 40 years, is draining the swamp.


"Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton will continue to let Wall Street and the 'hedge fund guys' rip off the people by paying no or very little in taxes,"
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/d ... ion-213614

“Hillary will never reform Wall Street. She is owned by Wall Street!”
http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/ ... ll-street/

Trump seems to sound anti Wall Street when it's convenient. Or is he a dirty leftist commie too?

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Dec 28, '16, 7:34am

niliuscofc wrote:People who did not vote for Trump, sure. Sanders and Warren voted for Clinton, and complained quite loudly about "wall street." You do not get apply your leftist idea of swamp as if Trump used swamp the same way as a communist/socialists.

Having a secretary of state, for example, who has worked for one company for over 40 years, is draining the swamp.

I voted for Sanders in the Primary and Clinton in the General but I saw more than enough people that pushed for Sanders, Warren, Stein, etc. that wound up voting for either one of those three or even Trump because of the #NeverHillary campaign.
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Dec 28, '16, 2:29pm

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niliuscofc wrote:
Tidal Town wrote:Please, people whined incessantly that Clinton had too many ties to Wall Street. I'm sorry, but appointing, for example, a former Goldman Sachs partner to Treasury Secretary is a physical manifestation of said Wall Street ties. And quite frankly, the word "business" isn't some magical phrase that means someone is devoid of corruption, political or otherwise.


People who did not vote for Trump, sure. Sanders and Warren voted for Clinton, and complained quite loudly about "wall street." You do not get apply your leftist idea of swamp as if Trump used swamp the same way as a communist/socialists.

Having a secretary of state, for example, who has worked for one company for over 40 years, is draining the swamp.


"Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton will continue to let Wall Street and the 'hedge fund guys' rip off the people by paying no or very little in taxes,"
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/d ... ion-213614

“Hillary will never reform Wall Street. She is owned by Wall Street!”
http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/ ... ll-street/

Trump seems to sound anti Wall Street when it's convenient. Or is he a dirty leftist commie too?

Trump is a snake oil sales men....he tells each town what they want to hear and then goes off to make more money

Anyone who is feeling like Trumps messaging for the last year is fake....is right it was. He is not draining the swamp, he will not build a wall, he will not make more jobs....he will do what every other president for the last 20 years has done....go to war and not much else.

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Dec 28, '16, 5:53pm

Weidleface wrote:"Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton will continue to let Wall Street and the 'hedge fund guys' rip off the people by paying no or very little in taxes,"
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/d ... ion-213614

“Hillary will never reform Wall Street. She is owned by Wall Street!”
http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/ ... ll-street/

Trump seems to sound anti Wall Street when it's convenient. Or is he a dirty leftist commie too?


Almost any other topic would have been better to pick. Trump hit his hate of carried interest (which benefits specifically "wall street") dozens of time during the election with specificity, as opposed to his vague responses to many other issues.

Tidal Town wrote:I voted for Sanders in the Primary and Clinton in the General but I saw more than enough people that pushed for Sanders, Warren, Stein, etc. that wound up voting for either one of those three or even Trump because of the #NeverHillary campaign.


There are more actual white supremacists in the U.S. (17 people), than actual people who were "#neverhillary."

Never Trump, however, was an actual real thing. You can see that with the lowered correlation between republican voters for all non-president elections and Trump's total vote.
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Dec 28, '16, 8:42pm

niliuscofc wrote:There are more actual white supremacists in the U.S. (17 people), than actual people who were "#neverhillary."

You think there are only 17 white supremacists in the U.S.? Stormfront has a larger user base than that.
Never Trump, however, was an actual real thing. You can see that with the lowered correlation between republican voters for all non-president elections and Trump's total vote.

#NeverTrump was a thing as well. So was #NeverHillary. I think you're being willfully obtuse if you don't think so. Also I think a lot of Trump voters, at least where I live, were the usual straight-ticket Republican voters that do so in every election down here. It's a pretty common practice.
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Dec 28, '16, 9:09pm

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Tidal Town wrote:I voted for Sanders in the Primary and Clinton in the General but I saw more than enough people that pushed for Sanders, Warren, Stein, etc. that wound up voting for either one of those three or even Trump because of the #NeverHillary campaign.


There are more actual white supremacists in the U.S. (17 people), than actual people who were "#neverhillary."

Never Trump, however, was an actual real thing. You can see that with the lowered correlation between republican voters for all non-president elections and Trump's total vote.


#NeverHillary is what cost her the election. Not the hashtag, but the idea behind it. Plenty of people that would normallly have voted Democrat either stayed home or voted 3rd Party because of her (and some even voted for Trump!). And to claim that there are only 17 white supremacists in America is quite possibly the most absurd thing you've said on the KF forums.
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Dec 29, '16, 4:41am

Raging Light wrote:#NeverHillary is what cost her the election. Not the hashtag, but the idea behind it. Plenty of people that would normallly have voted Democrat either stayed home or voted 3rd Party because of her (and some even voted for Trump!).


Tidal Town wrote:You think there are only 17 white supremacists in the U.S.? Stormfront has a larger user base than that.

#NeverTrump was a thing as well. So was #NeverHillary. I think you're being willfully obtuse if you don't think so. Also I think a lot of Trump voters, at least where I live, were the usual straight-ticket Republican voters that do so in every election down here. It's a pretty common practice.


There are also about 17 black supremacists in the U.S.

We have a simple way to determine if your statements are true. Take the total votes Hillary received, and compare it to the total votes give to all democrat candidates in house races, for example. Now take Trump's total vote, and compare it to the total votes given to all republican house candidates. This will help us determine if voters were actually "#neverhillary." You will see Hillary obtained 4.2 million more votes than democrat house candidates received, whereas Trump received 200,000 less votes than republican house candidates received.
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Jan 01, '17, 1:22pm

I still find it amazing, that after 8 years of Obama and SJW's in power, that some people still want Clinton as their President.

Trump can't do much worse, and if he can work with Putin, we at least know that the west is safe for around 4 years.
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